How Do You Feel About Gender Identity Hw ?

Is Gender Identity Important?

  • Yes

  • No

  • I don't know

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I'm still just... Chad.

In seriousness, I was gonna go Army like my grandfather, but... eh. Lately I've actually considered being a politician, if only because
1) I feel like having mental illness I'll be better equipped to help people with it in that if I'm elected it'll show them that it doesn't have to hold you back
2) I feel that even if I'm not elected, I can try to be the change I wanna see in this world, to use a cliché.
3) I feel pretty; oh so pretty. I feel pretty, and witty, and gay.
 
If a woman wanted her arm cut off because she believes she wasn't supposed to have that arm I would put them in a mental hospital same here. Also don't expect me to call a mare a unicorn because it attached some shitty false horn to itself doubly so if that mare wants to be called a dog.
 
Aurelius Of Phoenix said:
If a woman wanted her arm cut off because she believes she wasn't supposed to have that arm I would put them in a mental hospital same here. Also don't expect me to call a mare a unicorn because it attached some shitty false horn to itself doubly so if that mare wants to be called a dog.
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Well you have those people who burn their eyes out with bleach because they are a blind person trapped in a seeing persons body. How about that one lady who was trying to find a surgeon who would sever her spine because her true self is a Cripple and thinks she should transition from being capable of walking to a Wheelchairkin.
 
TheGM said:
Well you have those people who burn their eyes out with bleach because they are a blind person trapped in a seeing persons body. How about that one lady who was trying to find a surgeon who would sever her spine because her true self is a Cripple and thinks she should transition from being capable of walking to a Wheelchairkin.
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The saddest part about all of this is that nothing you said was inaccurate. These people exist.
 
The gender vs sex thing has been covered, aside from that I've never really had to care about it, so I'll continue not really having to care about it

That said, I've known *one* person who succeeded in making me switch the pronoun, because of the genuine and absolute effort that went in to the complete transformation. He used to be a she. He shaves now. He has a penis (Sortof, I guess. I'll have to take his word for it)
It no longer makes any kind of sense to refer to him as "she"

I've known... two in total, maybe even three... who did not really succeed, but it doesn't really matter cus I never had to talk to them in person. Behind their back I'll do the "he-she-whatevs"-kind of joke I guess. It's confusing for the short duration of my bother.
They are all male-to-female, and neither of them, afaik, went the whole way. So... they still shave, and carry penises around.
 
gender dysphoria is as much a mental illness as say depression. recognizing it as such isn't dehumanizing. that said im not so so sure transitional surgery should be counted as necessary. what is it something like 45% still commit suicide after surgery because they realize that they aren't actual women but frankenstien monsters from an era where we let medical science go awry? honestly their suicide rate alone is probably more of a reflection of mental issues than it is reflection of an unnacctepting society.
 
mobucks said:
What I really don’t like is when they sit first graders in a classroom and teach them all this shit. I think it’s too young. A kid that age can ask a question to an adult if they want to. They don’t need an adult subject like this pounded into them from birth. I mean we got 7 year old trannies now. SHAKE MY HEAD.
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How many children have you actually educated in your life? How much and how long have you studied pedagogy? Is the Ballard-Score a commonly used term for you?

I have worked for the last 2 years with hundreds of different children and teenagers - of which many have been troubled teenagers and children and I am currently studying early child hood pedagogy and psychology while working in day care as part of my education. As a matter of fact, we currently see a lot of changes in our society and our education if it wants to actually stay relevant, has to change with the society. In other words you have to prepare them to the realty they experience out there. You would be surprised how much is actually based on scientific research, like psychology for exmaple, which demonstrates how even toddlers have orgasms and actually masturbate - I am not saying this is a very common behaviour, but it happens. We're also dealing with a society where 10 and 11 year old children are exposed to modern media, like the internet trough their smartphones. They are exposed to this new medium already at a very young age and parents are often unable to actually explain to them, what they see and experience, children also reach earlier sexual maturity these days, due to better nutritions for example. We as educators usually only react on the questions the children have, and you have alrady 6 and 7 year old children asking questions about homosexualty, gender, idenity, sex, orgasms and many more questions. We can not simply say, yeah well! Let's protect them and keep them locked up! Do not talk about this! This is impossible. Unless you want a society that's as riggid like Saudi Arabia or North Korea where every aspect of the parents and toddlers life are under controll. You can believe this, the children come to US educators, day care workers and teachers with all of those questions, those are the things many children see and experience in todays world. You can't blame education for it.

I hate to say this, but I was at this point as well and I had to change my way of thinking on a lot of subjects in the recent years, the fact simply is that many of us have a thinking that's still stuck in the past, particularly when it comes to education, children and sexuality.
 
The poll/title question should probably instead be "Are you actually not affected by it whatever happens", for all it matters.

Literally the only maybe considerable argument against it is "Izzz Unnatural!", and if that's totally what you mean and not that you're an armchair bigot, then you should be ripped of all your clothes and forced to live in a desert island, because just about any changes we've done to our sociology since the discovery of Agriculture is "unnatural".

If, instead it's "I should be able to decide for others 'for their own good' even if it doesn't affect me or anyone else in the slightest", then I wonder if you shouldn't reconsider your rhetoric in the other political threads, mainly the Gun Control one.

Of course there's also fear mongering and exaggeration over some things a weirdo did that your grandma shared on Facebook, but once again; turning the outlier into the face of something is something you're not too fond of when it's allegedly strawmanning you.

A tangent I also am seeing is "Well, it's weird!" which, well, fuck you, but I'm sorry to break it to you that that "I brought a cute girl home but she had a dick" you keep seeing in hentai doujins is little more than a fantasy (unless you live in Thailand I guess) and doesn't even have dick to do with identity or anything. It's also not about "xe/xir/shey/loy/birl/goyrl" or whatever, as conveniently easy it is to boil it down too.

If what makes you vulnerate (or enable and sympathize with the fact) others' freedom of expression and of defining themselves is that it could maybe perhaps ensue an "annoyance", well, fuck you again. I don't see anyone considering to legally limit, silence and impede Conservatives, Nationalists or Republicans even if I'd sure find real awkward to be face to face with them and cope with their fucking dumbass drivel about how Trump saved the economy, now don't we.
 
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I know this is a hyperbole/joke of sorts, but seriously maybe we have 7 year old trannies, because they REALLY do feel like that about them selfs? Where as 60 years ago society, education and everyone around them would have simple beat it out of them, forcing them in to a live that most probably killed them, like trough suicide - it happend with homosexuals as well and god knows how many other opressed people.

I am not going to claim that I understand the topic, like not at all, I am not a psychologist or a biologist, but I have serious doubts anyone posting in here is. But inclusivness, is not fascism guys and if something like this can already threaten your 'masculinity' or what ever, then maybe it was not really a strong one to begin with. And concentrating always on the fringes sounds to me like exactly the type of rhetoric they used before homosexuality was legalized. You know, where they said legalizing it would open the flood gates to pedophiles and rapists killing our society!
 
Crni Vuk said:
I know this is a hyperbole/joke of sorts, but seriously maybe we have 7 year old trannies, because they REALLY do feel like that about them selfs? Where as 60 years ago society, education and everyone around them would have simple beat it out of them, forcing them in to a live that most probably killed them, like trough suicide - it happend with homosexuals as well and god knows how many other opressed people.

I am not going to claim that I understand the topic, like not at all, I am not a psychologist or a biologist, but I have serious doubts anyone posting in here is. But inclusivness, is not fascism guys and if something like this can already threaten your 'masculinity' or what ever, then maybe it was not really a strong one to begin with. And concentrating always on the fringes sounds to me like exactly the type of rhetoric they used before homosexuality was legalized. You know, where they said legalizing it would open the flood gates to pedophiles and rapists killing our society!
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There’s this quote i’m probably paraphrasing. “When you’ve been privileged all your life, egality feels like opression”.

TheGM said:
Is that a parody post?
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I don’t know, but yours is.

TheGM said:
Well you have those people who burn their eyes out with bleach because they are a blind person trapped in a seeing persons body. How about that one lady who was trying to find a surgeon who would sever her spine because her true self is a Cripple and thinks she should transition from being capable of walking to a Wheelchairkin.
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I wonder if y’all would care more for freedom of identity if that had been on the Amendments, if we’re looking at it from the perspective of unfitting and arbitrary moral and legal rethoric. Probably not. :drunk:
 
Arnust said:
I don’t know, but yours is.
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Such wit it cuts to the bone.
Arnust said:
I wonder if y’all would care more for freedom of identity if that had been on the Amendments, if we’re looking at it from the perspective of unfitting and arbitrary moral and legal rethoric. Probably not. :drunk:
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Indeed. people should be allowed to pop their eyes out with corkscrews because of feels.
 
TheGM said:
Indeed. people should be allowed to pop their eyes out with corkscrews because of feels.
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But what about the kids, though? Should the kids be allowed to sign off on life-changing things no matter what their parents say?

Now, see, I'll throw my hat in here and say at no fucking point ever should you give a kid tittyskittles because they say they think they're a girl. A daring stance in this day and age, I know, but hear me out. I don't think HRT or (gods fucking forbid) SRS is ever appropriate for a child. Not now, not ever.

If an adult capable of the informed consent required for sex in the first place wants to destroy their genitals and upend their bodily chemistry in the vain pursuit of some parody of the opposite sex, on their own dime, I say "let them". The leaps of leftist logic required to say "It's completely ok for kids to do this", however, are drastic and they point strongly towards a downright pedophilic undercurrent in the left.

JOHN MONEY WAS A QUACK AND IF THERE'S A HELL HE'S BURNING IN IT.
 
Cliffy McEdgeface said:
But what about the kids, though? Should the kids be allowed to sign off on life-changing things no matter what their parents say?
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Well you got to remember that children can be very insightful/ignorant and sometimes have a understanding/no idea of how these irreversible life altering changes will effect them. Honestly the only people who would be against this would be a Trump, you are not a Trump are you?
 
“But think of the children, they’re being duct taped dildos in their forehead! After all, it’s what this is ACTUALLY about and something that is totally happening all the find everywhere no really, it’s not a hyperbole of even low key implying nonbinarism exists to kids as part of sensible upraising of nowadays where kids should feel safe to choose without fear of being rejected by their parents, which is probably the #1 factor deterring younger people.”
Yeah guys, heterosexuality is dying. Enjoy it while it lasts, perhaps we’ll eventually also have to be “cured” of it by being literally fed poison.
 
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