Paul_cz
Mildly Dipped
Stop feeding the Troll. Kthxbye.
The Witcher Thread
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Mildly Dipped
I don't see you giving a large list of why it isn't a good rpg.Eyenixon said:
Your points so far:
* boring
* droll and juvenile
I don't know why I even reply to you.
I'm not arguing here numbnuts, perhaps the concept of "seeking information" or "assessing biased opinions for personal taste" in the search for other people's views on a subject is alien to you. It must be, because you're rather adamant that somehow I'm just trolling, I said I didn't like the game, and I want to know why you enjoyed it.
Is this familiar? It should be, otherwise you most likely have never discussed a book with someone that presents a differing view on that book without lambasting them with inconsequential criticism that has much nothingness in its relevance to what the other party is asking.
In this case, you should realize that I simply WANT TO KNOW.
Maybe I was looking for the wrong thing in this game? Every time I heard someone speak of it they'd talk about the combat and the alchemy, even most reviews would refer to that as a selling point. But I always sight small vague comments about other aspects of the game that I might not have picked out.
Attempt to be less of a confrontational goof and consider in engaging in an activity that involves me actively listening to your opinion. I said I didn't like the game, I don't need to elaborate because I don't care about arguing whether or not it's a great game, my point is that I don't get it, and I want to know why certain people like it.
This was the same problem for me with PS:T, I thought people enjoyed it because it was a great RPG all around, but then I found out that it had incredible flaws in its fundamentals and my opinion of it was rather underwhelming as to its quality.
But then I heard people voicing the same concerns but enjoying it for its story. I had been previously ignoring the game after initial impressions from a three hour long play through, but that convinced me that there was at least one compelling aspect to the game.
I still hated the game, don't get me wrong, but the story was entirely worth it.
Now treat me, tell me why you like this game so much guys, so that perhaps I can attempt to look for the same things you were actively searching for in this game.
I'm not a person who enjoys a game initially because of its whole, sometimes I need to find a single thing that catches my attention and will allow me to disregard the rest of a title's inherent problems. PS:T had the story, Fallout had the combat targeting and elaborate dialog, Arcanum had fantastic character development, hell, even Ultima 7 didn't get me until I realized how complex and varied the world was.
I apologize for being a bit sarcastic, but that's just my personality, and in all honesty it was meant to be a slight jest.
Let me turn over a leaf and just make it clear that I am sincerely looking for a biased opinion of this game, point out all the things that are great about it and maybe I can bring myself to look for those same things. I don't care for reviews, I care for discussion amongst gamers.
The last time this happened I was boo'ed off for not liking Banjo Tooie as much as the original game, but later on a friend related just how rewarding the back-tracking that I hated so much actually was, and I suffered through the first hour and found myself liking it immensely, to the point that I actually enjoyed the rest of the game.
Is this familiar? It should be, otherwise you most likely have never discussed a book with someone that presents a differing view on that book without lambasting them with inconsequential criticism that has much nothingness in its relevance to what the other party is asking.
In this case, you should realize that I simply WANT TO KNOW.
Maybe I was looking for the wrong thing in this game? Every time I heard someone speak of it they'd talk about the combat and the alchemy, even most reviews would refer to that as a selling point. But I always sight small vague comments about other aspects of the game that I might not have picked out.
Attempt to be less of a confrontational goof and consider in engaging in an activity that involves me actively listening to your opinion. I said I didn't like the game, I don't need to elaborate because I don't care about arguing whether or not it's a great game, my point is that I don't get it, and I want to know why certain people like it.
This was the same problem for me with PS:T, I thought people enjoyed it because it was a great RPG all around, but then I found out that it had incredible flaws in its fundamentals and my opinion of it was rather underwhelming as to its quality.
But then I heard people voicing the same concerns but enjoying it for its story. I had been previously ignoring the game after initial impressions from a three hour long play through, but that convinced me that there was at least one compelling aspect to the game.
I still hated the game, don't get me wrong, but the story was entirely worth it.
Now treat me, tell me why you like this game so much guys, so that perhaps I can attempt to look for the same things you were actively searching for in this game.
I'm not a person who enjoys a game initially because of its whole, sometimes I need to find a single thing that catches my attention and will allow me to disregard the rest of a title's inherent problems. PS:T had the story, Fallout had the combat targeting and elaborate dialog, Arcanum had fantastic character development, hell, even Ultima 7 didn't get me until I realized how complex and varied the world was.
I apologize for being a bit sarcastic, but that's just my personality, and in all honesty it was meant to be a slight jest.
Let me turn over a leaf and just make it clear that I am sincerely looking for a biased opinion of this game, point out all the things that are great about it and maybe I can bring myself to look for those same things. I don't care for reviews, I care for discussion amongst gamers.
The last time this happened I was boo'ed off for not liking Banjo Tooie as much as the original game, but later on a friend related just how rewarding the back-tracking that I hated so much actually was, and I suffered through the first hour and found myself liking it immensely, to the point that I actually enjoyed the rest of the game.
Paul_cz
Mildly Dipped
Eyenixon said:
Okay, lets see. What I like about The Witcher:
1) The Story
2) Dialogues
3) Actual real choices with real consequences
4) No Bioware style morality - things are never clearly good or evil in Witcher
5) Beautiful art style - Vizima is the best fantasy city I have ever seen in 3D rpg, 4th act is a beauty..well the whole game really.
6) Combat system which is both fun and engaging (needs to be played on hard)
7) Great alchemy system
8) Very faithful aproach in adapting the books
9) Geralt is a badass
10) The Witcher is the best RPG since Bloodlines
Of course, none of that matters to you, because it is only mine (and about milion's other people) opinion, not yours. So if you are determined to NOT like this game, stop telling us it sucks.
Kthxbye.
Jim Cojones
It Wandered In From the Wastes
What kind of potions player uses before battle really has the impact on fighting on hard while on normal you can just click all enemies to death.
Paul_cz
Mildly Dipped
Eyenixon said:
You don't have visual indicator when to click, so you have to be more careful and watch Geralt move, plus you have to use alchemy (it's mandatory instead of optional), plus there are combat stances, finishing moves...compared to just about every other fantasy rpg that I have played (BG,PST,Morrowind,Oblivion,NWN..) The Witcher has superior combat system.
aronsearle
Still Mildly Glowing
Normal = Click when given the signal, occasionally use potions.
Hard = Use potions frequently and click when given a less obvious signal.
If you don't like the combat in normal, you will not like the combat on hard, because it's the same combat.
Also, I don't understand the love of the alchemy system, you pick things up, you go into a menu, and press "make potion", just seems like unnecessary micromanagement to me, though alot of crafting systems in games seem just as popular and similar in principle, personal tastes yadda yadda.
Hard = Use potions frequently and click when given a less obvious signal.
If you don't like the combat in normal, you will not like the combat on hard, because it's the same combat.
Also, I don't understand the love of the alchemy system, you pick things up, you go into a menu, and press "make potion", just seems like unnecessary micromanagement to me, though alot of crafting systems in games seem just as popular and similar in principle, personal tastes yadda yadda.
Just bought The Witcher : Enhanced Edition. My feelings are rather mixed so far. While I kinda like the atmosphere, I don't really like the setting nor the main character. The quests so far are not really interesting and there was little choice and consequence so far ( again, I'm only two hours into the game ). On the other hand I really like the combat system and the graphics are rather nice ( even though they don't really justify the system requirements imo ).
As regards the contents of the Enhanced Edition : well it's a pretty good pack for a reasonable price !
As regards the contents of the Enhanced Edition : well it's a pretty good pack for a reasonable price !
aronsearle said:
If you simplify points to that degree then of course it's boring. It's how it's implemented in the game, where it is an integral element of the gameplay and key to your survival.
Hang in there. I thought the first 10-15 hours were pretty droll. About half way through the murder investigation it starts getting good, and gets great near the end.MrBumble said:
Yeah well, as far as regards performance : The Witcher is rather poor. Not attrocious but really poorly optimized and it does not look that great. It is moody and looks cool but the texutres are really poor and the technology they use is even less impressive than Fallout 3...I'd expect this game to play better on my rig ( E8400, 3go ram, 2*9800GT SLi ) but there is some annoying stuttering at times ( well ok, I can run it on max details but I have to turn AA off ! ).
I've been reluctant to PC gaming for two years, this game and Clear Sky reminded me why...
I've been reluctant to PC gaming for two years, this game and Clear Sky reminded me why...
Yeah, both are from newcomers, from Eastern Europe (I think, not sure about Stalker). It's great for innovation, but they should have collaborated with a big company to optimize performance.
I think it get's the job done. I like the atmosphere a lot more than what I've seen of Fallout 3 so far.MrBumble said:
Strange. I run everything on max, including AA. And I only have an E6300, 2gb ram and a single 8800GT.MrBumble said:
I didn't have any performance issues except for the swamp area.
Dove said:
CD Projekt is the biggerst Polish publishing company, and RED is one of their developer studios. And while The Witcher is their first released game, the RED devs aren't new to the game development market.
Ya dolt ;P
Well you happen to be lucky then, Buxbaum666.
According to Showfps.com, which is a benchmark site, the average framerate on Witcher ( among 14 different benchmarks ) is 38fps. It's not bad but far from great considering what's on screen.
If you take a look at this :
http://showfps.com/fr/benchmark/witcher/akimine-28-538.html
You'll see that there are huge framerate drops even with a 8800 gtx. I probably shouldn't have used the word "stuttering" because I don't exactly have stuttering problems with The Witcher. What I do have is framerate drops. Going from 60 fps down to 32 just because I made my character look at a slightly more populated area is clearly perceptible and annoying. There are also micro-stutters when the game loads a new area ( seems it's streaming the landscapes ). I'm ok with it, lots of games do it. But the Witcher does not exactly look impressive, nor does it justify its system requirements imo. No bump mapping, no HDR, no volumetric lights, no parallax mapping, nothing fancy really but still it performs worse than the unreal engine 3 for instance. This is what pisses me off.
According to Showfps.com, which is a benchmark site, the average framerate on Witcher ( among 14 different benchmarks ) is 38fps. It's not bad but far from great considering what's on screen.
If you take a look at this :
http://showfps.com/fr/benchmark/witcher/akimine-28-538.html
You'll see that there are huge framerate drops even with a 8800 gtx. I probably shouldn't have used the word "stuttering" because I don't exactly have stuttering problems with The Witcher. What I do have is framerate drops. Going from 60 fps down to 32 just because I made my character look at a slightly more populated area is clearly perceptible and annoying. There are also micro-stutters when the game loads a new area ( seems it's streaming the landscapes ). I'm ok with it, lots of games do it. But the Witcher does not exactly look impressive, nor does it justify its system requirements imo. No bump mapping, no HDR, no volumetric lights, no parallax mapping, nothing fancy really but still it performs worse than the unreal engine 3 for instance. This is what pisses me off.