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Discussion in 'Fallout 3 Discussion' started by Tagaziel, Nov 18, 2008.
It...is beloved. Huge success, influenced many other games, revived a dead franchise.
No, it didn't.
It should have stayed dead.
What i'm noticing lately is that Fallout 3 is getting more and more criticized, specially because of the existence of New Vegas. Good, this game deserves all the bashing, plus more.
What themes? If you mean the themes of stupidity, then it nailed it with flying colors. Because it sure as hell didn't nailed the themes of the franchise.
Well, Huge success when it was released, because Bethesda is good at hype train and also the classic Fallout fans all bought the game to see if it was "Van Buren 1.5". There is a reason why on almost all the gaming platforms that allow ranking/rate Fallout 3 is the second last ranked Fallout in existence (worst Fallout game is Fallout 4 and Fallout 3 is the one before that).
I know this because I got curious when that troll came by and made that clickbait thread. Let me see if I can find the ranks I posted back then:
And my second "ratings post":
Also the franchise wasn't dead (I never understood where people got this idea). Troika had a deal on the table to buy the franchise before Bethesda even thought of it. Bethesda also didn't buy the franchise, the original contract was that Bethesda would have the rights to make 3 games using the franchise and that was it. But then they managed to put Interplay on court for whatever reason and since Interplay was already pretty much bankrupt by then, it couldn't afford the legal costs and had to "concede" defeat and was pretty much forced to sell the IP to Bethesda for 5.75 million dollars (+/-) because it had no more money left.
EDIT: I forgot to say that Interplay was also making a Fallout MMO, which Bethesda didn't buy the rights of, back then. So it wasn't dead and there was still games being made in the franchise. Probably an awful game since it was a MMO, but still not dead.
Well, @Risewild certainly answered everything.
Plus nowadays 3 doesn't get as much nostalgia as NV gets. To the point where some people on other places try to seem 'cooler' and 'edgier' by dissing NV whenever most people start or are in the midst of praising it.
I can say that over the years we had quite a fair share of players coming to the TTW team and saying that they had sold Fallout 3 but kept FNV, but bought Fallout 3 again just because they loved Fallout New Vegas so much that they think they will be able to finally enjoy it using TTW.
This site literally labels "Brotherhood of Steel" as "Fallout: Piece of Shit." Fallout 4 I can see myself enjoying if I turn off my brain hours at a time. I can't imagine playing BoS more than a few minutes before turning into a literal ghoul.
You can't really rate what the "universe" of players of Fallout games think of them in comparison, because FOBOS only exist on a really old gen consoles.
And consoles do not have Fallout, Fallout 2 or Fallout Tactics. Let alone really old gen ones.
I'm pretty sure FPOS would suck no matter on what device it was played on. Also, do Android devices count as "consoles?" Because I'm writing this on my tablet and with a few tabs I can play Fallout 1 & 2 on it using ExaGear. Modded too.
Furthermore, I've never heard anyone speak positively of FPOS. Never ever.
But can you play Fallout 3, NV and 4 on your Android?
I can tell you something positive about FBOS. It doesn't break the lore as much as Bethesda Fallout games .
Also, we can't rate FOBOS and compare it to the PC games because FOBOS can't be rated on Steam, GOG and pretty much all others big ranking sites that have more than a few people who played the games.
probably. people probably wont remember much about the game but rather the impression it had on them. it was probably a lot of peoples first """"""""""""""""""real""""""""""""""""""" (western) RPG
edit; i put probably not because im a braindead fucking retard
I remember everyone here hating it wish a passion. I've been gone from this forum way to long.
We all wish for some more passion.
Oh I still hate it, don't worry about that.
I just don't hate all the people who like it as long as they are not obnoxious about it and go "You people all live in the past, change is good, Bethesda saved the Fallout franchise and kept it true to its roots, etc"
It'll definitely make an impact. It was the first time Fallout was on console (let's keep pretending BoS didn't exist), and it kickstarted Bethesda's career on consoles more than even Oblivion.
Will it be remembered? A few people will always remember it as either the greatest game they've ever played or the worst, depending on how much they liked it before it faded into nostalgic exaggeration. But it definitely won't be remembered as much as the trainwreck that is Skyrim, sadly
I find it funny, it's mostly remembered for not being as good as New Vegas.
It will be remembered for a good long while, at the very least. I still see a large number of people praising the game simply because it was 'their first fallout game.' Which is a milksop answer if I ever heard one, but people get nostalgic.
Hilariously, this forum is often accused by Fallout 3 fans of just catering to nostalgia. Critical thinking is such a lacking trait these days.
The ones I've talked to who give that answer always seem to admit the hypocrisy, at least. Better than "4 or nothing" fans.
Fascinating isn't it? Us fans who became fan of the franchise with FO1 and 2 are accused of holding on to the past and now thirteen years later the same can be said about the Fallout 3 fans that they are too blinded by nostalgia instead of accepting that Fallout 4 and Fallout 76 are the future.
Ah Irony you old dog, you did it again.
Brought that up in another thread. The hilarious part is that people have called me nostalgic for the first two games when Fallout 3 was my first Fallout game, and only played the first two games after 3.
I remember when I used to love Fallout 3 as a kid but now I can barely even stand to look at it.